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		<title>By: Journalistopia &#187; New York Times publisher: &#8216;I really don&#8217;t know whether we&#8217;ll be printing the Times in five years&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://journalistopia.com/2007/01/18/predicting-armaggedon-for-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalistopia &#187; New York Times publisher: &#8216;I really don&#8217;t know whether we&#8217;ll be printing the Times in five years&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 00:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hearing this from the head honcho of the Times, I can only imagine journalists and production people up north are pooping their pants. These are some scary, sobering comments. Only time will tell, but let&#8217;s hope I won&#8217;t have to eat crow for my post about Lucas Grindley&#8217;s predictions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hearing this from the head honcho of the Times, I can only imagine journalists and production people up north are pooping their pants. These are some scary, sobering comments. Only time will tell, but let&#8217;s hope I won&#8217;t have to eat crow for my post about Lucas Grindley&#8217;s predictions. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Journalistopia &#187; World&#8217;s oldest newspaper goes Internet-only</title>
		<link>http://journalistopia.com/2007/01/18/predicting-armaggedon-for-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-1063</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalistopia &#187; World&#8217;s oldest newspaper goes Internet-only</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While this seems to be more a result of a competitive environment, it is good to note that the lower-cost online option exists to keep some traditions and publications alive, at least in some form. While the big papers aren&#8217;t going to be closing up shop any time soon, prepare to see many more college papers and high school papers going this route to preserve their publications (and journalism programs) and cut costs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While this seems to be more a result of a competitive environment, it is good to note that the lower-cost online option exists to keep some traditions and publications alive, at least in some form. While the big papers aren&#8217;t going to be closing up shop any time soon, prepare to see many more college papers and high school papers going this route to preserve their publications (and journalism programs) and cut costs. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lucasgrindley.com blog &#124; Exploring the new way for journalism</title>
		<link>http://journalistopia.com/2007/01/18/predicting-armaggedon-for-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-972</link>
		<dc:creator>lucasgrindley.com blog &#124; Exploring the new way for journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;5 consecutive points in my history; aka, why you hate tagging games...&lt;/strong&gt;

I’ve been tagged, which I hate but it’s probably better than not being tagged, right? No one wants to be last picked for dodge ball. So five things you don’t know about me, mainly because, who the hell am I......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>5 consecutive points in my history; aka, why you hate tagging games&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I’ve been tagged, which I hate but it’s probably better than not being tagged, right? No one wants to be last picked for dodge ball. So five things you don’t know about me, mainly because, who the hell am I&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lucasgrindley.com blog &#124; Exploring the new way for journalism</title>
		<link>http://journalistopia.com/2007/01/18/predicting-armaggedon-for-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-959</link>
		<dc:creator>lucasgrindley.com blog &#124; Exploring the new way for journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Top 10 blogs I read...&lt;/strong&gt;

The much anticipated lucasgrindley.com blogroll debuts today. During the last couple months, I&#039;ve used the &quot;most visited&quot; tool from del.icio.us to monitor the blogs I frequent. As a result, the blogs are listed in order of how often I visit......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Top 10 blogs I read&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The much anticipated lucasgrindley.com blogroll debuts today. During the last couple months, I&#8217;ve used the &#8220;most visited&#8221; tool from del.icio.us to monitor the blogs I frequent. As a result, the blogs are listed in order of how often I visit&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Welch</title>
		<link>http://journalistopia.com/2007/01/18/predicting-armaggedon-for-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-953</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucas comments on the likes of Google and Yahoo owning papers in the future and their lack of journalistic experience, “they don’t care about journalism”. That may not be a bad thing. One of the impending problems visible now with newspapers is the &lt;a href=&quot;”http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1747313,00.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;trouble managing the ads &lt;/a&gt; and generating the proper revenue on their online editions. Google would only care for the traffic. The expertise of AdSense or any other program might make for a journalist that is less troubled by circulation concerns, paper editions become a trophy and tradition supported by enormous bankrolls that don’t need them to create a real profit. Also, ads in those additions might be better focused and actually increase their profit. Newspapers might begin to use the blogosphere much in the same way that they use the AP or Reuters. Another thing is that papers tend to hold onto their libraries and lock them up for a price to search. That is missed ad revenue for the online editions. Imagine the bank of restaurant reviews, music reviews and other area info that only they have from qualified and trusted authors. Open them up to the google bots and drive more traffic even for a page that is years old. (not my idea, I read a complaint about that recently, sorry can’t cite it though, lost link). Besides, Google and Yahoo are already beaten up and sensitive about censorship and influence after dealing with China and such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucas comments on the likes of Google and Yahoo owning papers in the future and their lack of journalistic experience, “they don’t care about journalism”. That may not be a bad thing. One of the impending problems visible now with newspapers is the <a href="”http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1747313,00.asp" rel="nofollow">trouble managing the ads </a> and generating the proper revenue on their online editions. Google would only care for the traffic. The expertise of AdSense or any other program might make for a journalist that is less troubled by circulation concerns, paper editions become a trophy and tradition supported by enormous bankrolls that don’t need them to create a real profit. Also, ads in those additions might be better focused and actually increase their profit. Newspapers might begin to use the blogosphere much in the same way that they use the AP or Reuters. Another thing is that papers tend to hold onto their libraries and lock them up for a price to search. That is missed ad revenue for the online editions. Imagine the bank of restaurant reviews, music reviews and other area info that only they have from qualified and trusted authors. Open them up to the google bots and drive more traffic even for a page that is years old. (not my idea, I read a complaint about that recently, sorry can’t cite it though, lost link). Besides, Google and Yahoo are already beaten up and sensitive about censorship and influence after dealing with China and such.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Sanchez</title>
		<link>http://journalistopia.com/2007/01/18/predicting-armaggedon-for-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-947</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, hopefully the robots won&#039;t start working on US! I never really thought about how closely the EPIC movie resembles the Terminator films...

There is a great deal at stake -- the very nature of our political system, as you had written. Had the world not fervently discussed such scenarios, we&#039;d all have been under mushroom clouds years ago. You are absolutely right in outlining the worst-case scenario, and I thought it was well-written and thought out. 

I like to think newspapers will still be around, though they&#039;ll be very different from what we see today. I believe they will not be destroyed, but rather, evolved. But we won&#039;t ever get there if we just grow news Web sites without thinking about how the newspaper can also fundamentally change for the better. It&#039;s easier to enact grandiose changes on the Web because the &quot;rules&quot; haven&#039;t been fully written and the investment required to change or create a feature is generally minimal in comparison to, say, changing a printed publication&#039;s size. My whole point is that the brightest in our industry desperately need to think as innovatively about the printed product as we do about our news sites. And then, we might just avoid Armageddon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, hopefully the robots won&#8217;t start working on US! I never really thought about how closely the EPIC movie resembles the Terminator films&#8230;</p>
<p>There is a great deal at stake &#8212; the very nature of our political system, as you had written. Had the world not fervently discussed such scenarios, we&#8217;d all have been under mushroom clouds years ago. You are absolutely right in outlining the worst-case scenario, and I thought it was well-written and thought out. </p>
<p>I like to think newspapers will still be around, though they&#8217;ll be very different from what we see today. I believe they will not be destroyed, but rather, evolved. But we won&#8217;t ever get there if we just grow news Web sites without thinking about how the newspaper can also fundamentally change for the better. It&#8217;s easier to enact grandiose changes on the Web because the &#8220;rules&#8221; haven&#8217;t been fully written and the investment required to change or create a feature is generally minimal in comparison to, say, changing a printed publication&#8217;s size. My whole point is that the brightest in our industry desperately need to think as innovatively about the printed product as we do about our news sites. And then, we might just avoid Armageddon.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
		<link>http://journalistopia.com/2007/01/18/predicting-armaggedon-for-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-946</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch. The &quot;pessimistic&quot; label really strikes me to the core. The hope with my post wasn&#039;t to impart some great hopelessness, but rather to illustrate what&#039;s at stake in all of this. We&#039;ve got to start acting like the changes are all happening right now instead of using as a crutch the idea that newspapers couldn&#039;t possibly go anywhere, no matter how badly a job we do.

Be prepared. In the real world, you can&#039;t send your robot back in time to fix things. Hmmm. On second thought, maybe we should forget about new business models and get to work on the robots . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch. The &#8220;pessimistic&#8221; label really strikes me to the core. The hope with my post wasn&#8217;t to impart some great hopelessness, but rather to illustrate what&#8217;s at stake in all of this. We&#8217;ve got to start acting like the changes are all happening right now instead of using as a crutch the idea that newspapers couldn&#8217;t possibly go anywhere, no matter how badly a job we do.</p>
<p>Be prepared. In the real world, you can&#8217;t send your robot back in time to fix things. Hmmm. On second thought, maybe we should forget about new business models and get to work on the robots . . .</p>
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