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	<title>Comments on: Examining the relationship between writer and message board troll</title>
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		<title>By: tish grier</title>
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		<dc:creator>tish grier</dc:creator>
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		<description>Hi Danny,

Something I said last year at SXSW (on the civility &amp; blog conversation panel I was on), and during the nasty little brou-ha-ha at WaPo during their comments shut down, is that we are in a period where people finally have the power to say things--and don&#039;t quite know how to use it eloquently just yet.  There&#039;s lots of folks who grew up with dads spleen-venting at Walter Kronkite, so they feel they should be spleen-venting too.  Not to mention folks who use venting on message boards/forums/people&#039;s blogs as a way to deal with their dull little cublicle lives...(and then there are organized groups who do it to &quot;bully&quot;...)

Thing is, online conversation is a weird and subtle form of communication.  Weird in that it doesn&#039;t have the usual body-language to help it along.  Subtle in that, once you&#039;ve been doing it for awhile, you can see who&#039;s &quot;real&quot; and who isn&#039;t.  I&#039;ve been around it for so many years that it&#039;s second nature to me, and have subsequently developed certain skills that help me understand what&#039;s happening in comments.  

To fully understand how to deal with comments is like learning the subtleties of a different culture. Think of it this way:  you can learn to speak perfect Parisian French in a classroom and study all of the culture and custom. But will you feel comfortable when you&#039;er actually in Paris?  Or feel that you are just as Parisian?  Probably the first time you think you are is when someone will make it very clear that you&#039;re not.   

Community, and how one participates in it, evloves over time--and it&#039;s only through practice that we&#039;ll eventually get how to be good at it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Danny,</p>
<p>Something I said last year at SXSW (on the civility &amp; blog conversation panel I was on), and during the nasty little brou-ha-ha at WaPo during their comments shut down, is that we are in a period where people finally have the power to say things&#8211;and don&#8217;t quite know how to use it eloquently just yet.  There&#8217;s lots of folks who grew up with dads spleen-venting at Walter Kronkite, so they feel they should be spleen-venting too.  Not to mention folks who use venting on message boards/forums/people&#8217;s blogs as a way to deal with their dull little cublicle lives&#8230;(and then there are organized groups who do it to &#8220;bully&#8221;&#8230;)</p>
<p>Thing is, online conversation is a weird and subtle form of communication.  Weird in that it doesn&#8217;t have the usual body-language to help it along.  Subtle in that, once you&#8217;ve been doing it for awhile, you can see who&#8217;s &#8220;real&#8221; and who isn&#8217;t.  I&#8217;ve been around it for so many years that it&#8217;s second nature to me, and have subsequently developed certain skills that help me understand what&#8217;s happening in comments.  </p>
<p>To fully understand how to deal with comments is like learning the subtleties of a different culture. Think of it this way:  you can learn to speak perfect Parisian French in a classroom and study all of the culture and custom. But will you feel comfortable when you&#8217;er actually in Paris?  Or feel that you are just as Parisian?  Probably the first time you think you are is when someone will make it very clear that you&#8217;re not.   </p>
<p>Community, and how one participates in it, evloves over time&#8211;and it&#8217;s only through practice that we&#8217;ll eventually get how to be good at it</p>
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